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Goodbye, Winter.

Posted by bob Jan. 16, 2008 @ 4:23 PM EST

So it hasn't actually snowed more than half an inch yet ('round these parts, anyway), but we're finally ditching the Winter header theme. I guess people accociated it more with Christmas, which is fine since I was a little sick of it anyway. So down it comes.

The challenge is to make it more simple to update the header in the future. It's not difficult as-is, technically speaking, but processes could always be improved upon. I found that when every time I made a change to the site's main CSS file (ngsite.css), I had to make changes to the backed-up version of the file too, the one without the fancy holiday theme additions. It wouldn't have been a big deal -- and still wasn't that big of a deal anyway, technically speaking -- if it was for only a day or two, but using a swapped-out style sheet for an entire month was a bit of a hassle considering the amount of tweaks and edits I'd been doing.

So, I've been messing around with swappable themes, the kind where all we have to do is toss in an additional style sheet that would overwrite the necessary header styles and call new images altogether. This instead of combing through a dozen different styles spread across the existing code. Not only would it make it simpler for me -- having all the styles in one handy place and not requiring me to edit multiple sheets for each change -- but it would be simpler for Jim and Ross too since there wouldn't be any timing issues. The art could be moved into a special holiday directory and the new style sheet could be added to the queue first, and then the script to activate the changes could be run at a later time. All around a simpler method.

The question remains whether there will be a noticeable glitch where the images are swapped out. For example, a user's browser loads the default header styles (which also call the new images) then load all the other styles in that first sheet. Will the browser display those images first, then swap them out for the updated styles a microsecond later? Or will it wait to see what the ultimate result is before rendering anything at all. I'm guessing it's the latter, but we won't know for sure until we test it out.

The reason I bring all this up now is because I've got the Peni-pals.com site set up to use a different skin for each section, and it's working out surprisingly well. I'm excited to use the technique elsewhere. It's a lot of extra code and a little bit of a headache but does help to keep things organized better.

Finally, a salute to our fallen header:

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Updated: 01/16/08 6:53 PM Log in to comment! | Share this!

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38 Comments

Jan. 16, 2008 | 4:39 PM Sparkwattclock says:

thank you for changing the banner! No offense i just didn't like the winter one. The old NG colors are awsome. Hey bob your whistle is like mine it never changes from garbage.


Jan. 16, 2008 | 4:44 PM Kanadian-Keith says:

I didn't mind the winter header. I hope that you find your way to swap those headers without having to do all that work. Also thanks for everything you've done, you're a really big part of newgrounds. :)


Jan. 16, 2008 | 4:44 PM Sparkwattclock says:

yes you are bob yes you are. i mean your a good admin, more than mindchamber.


Jan. 16, 2008 | 4:45 PM Imacow says:

Any screenies of Peni-pals for us?


Jan. 16, 2008 | 4:47 PM simon says:

oh wow, it looks weird orange again.


Jan. 16, 2008 | 4:48 PM 36Holla says:

You guys seriously need to do this at like 3-4 in the morning because you've caused a flood of OMG OLD LAYOUT IS BACK topics to flood the BBS. Just a suggestion.

Jan. 16, 2008 | 6:53 PM bob responds:

I try not to lead my life based on topics created in the BBS. If I did I'd go crazy.


Jan. 16, 2008 | 5:15 PM 3V1L-G3N1U5 says:

I loved the winter header. but the normal header is nice too.


Jan. 16, 2008 | 5:33 PM karlu20 says:

more simpler?
good english :p

and the winter 1s better i miss it *sniffles*

Jan. 16, 2008 | 6:54 PM bob responds:

:P

and yeah, i miss it too


Jan. 16, 2008 | 6:20 PM IammeoramI says:

So what thats a new header record? AM I RITE? HIGH 5!


Jan. 16, 2008 | 6:24 PM chris-the-stick2 says:

well, man.. i really liked the old one. i miss it.


Jan. 16, 2008 | 6:25 PM chris-the-stick2 says:

ON otehr news, sup/ and i hope you can change teh thinsg easy, and do the customised.

hmm, maybe if we COULD have a costomised theme thing..


Jan. 16, 2008 | 6:52 PM Hylian-Mafia says:

I really do miss that theme. It was the best theme Newgrounds has ever had. I need to start getting used to the original banner.

Jan. 16, 2008 | 6:55 PM bob responds:

Chin up, Valentine's Day is right around the corner.


Jan. 16, 2008 | 7:33 PM meeesta says:

i will miss this


Jan. 16, 2008 | 7:56 PM Goat-Man says:

To bad. It was a nice layout. I live in Canada, so for me winter is still gonna be around for like atleast 2 months. We just got our last big snowfall since November. Something like 5 inches.
But, I suppose there isn't almost half a year of snow everywhere. haha


Jan. 16, 2008 | 8:28 PM Frogcloset says:

always appreciate the effort thats goes into those loving touches.

but the sides are looking really naked now.

also what happen to the random borderimages around the swfs? thats seemed to work really well.

Jan. 16, 2008 | 10:02 PM bob responds:

Those ad campaigns are supposed to be starting up sometime this year, now that the test runs are over.


Jan. 16, 2008 | 8:53 PM LtMcMuffin says:

Best header was the Breast Cancer Awareness one.
Thanks for changing it, though, I was getting tired of it as it is. Nothing beats the good ol' shades of orange.
Never checked out Peni-pals... I'll have to do that now

Jan. 16, 2008 | 10:02 PM bob responds:

Nothing there yet, but just you wait.


Jan. 16, 2008 | 10:08 PM Shaun says:

The blue was actually easier on the eyes, this will take some time to get used to again.

The style sheet thing sounds confusing, I would think just adding style sheets that "overwrite" the other styles would be error riddled, slow and probably no good.
But I honestly have no idea.


Jan. 16, 2008 | 11:43 PM cindyjong230 says:

Thanks for changing the banner! is super cool! LOL! I like the snowman alot!


Jan. 16, 2008 | 11:51 PM voidshatter says:

im so used to seeing blue its hurts to look at orange again


Jan. 16, 2008 | 11:52 PM Jon4life says:

Fuck it, I was tired of it anyway.


Jan. 17, 2008 | 12:29 PM CaptainBob says:

I just realized how much I had become accustomed to the winter header, heh.


Jan. 17, 2008 | 7:28 PM Tsuchinoko says:

I'll miss that snowman.


Jan. 17, 2008 | 7:40 PM Neiliomedeilio says:

When i first saw it, it burned my eyes.


Jan. 17, 2008 | 8:19 PM Sunglasses says:

What happened to the link for the webcams?

Jan. 17, 2008 | 10:10 PM bob responds:

It's been gone for a few months now. We no longer actively support it.


Jan. 17, 2008 | 8:28 PM SevenSeize says:

People really have no idea how much effort you guys put into this, and the hard work of getting it right.

Thanks much! :-)


Jan. 18, 2008 | 5:10 AM WolfBlitz2 says:

yeah it was starting to annoy me
HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE!?
now that i have finish my whingin' I have a question
How many more themes is NG going to have this year?

Jan. 18, 2008 | 9:33 AM bob responds:

I'll say 10 or so... Valentine's, Pico, Madness, Clock, Castle Crashers, X-mas (again), Halloween, Breast Cancer awareness, July 4th and Arbor Day.


Jan. 18, 2008 | 9:51 AM DABridges says:

Bob, I believe it's all a matter of what order you put the style sheets. The additional style sheet before main one(s). There shouldn't be a glitch then...Unless I'm a hack and completely wrong about the NG framework.

Why are you trying to make things so easy?
If you automate the process of everything, you have no job?
Moar COD4!!!


Jan. 18, 2008 | 11:15 AM FryLock-08 says:

i agree on the redesign og newgrounds.com/cat
it's messed up.........


Jan. 18, 2008 | 1:54 PM little-fool says:

Am I the only one who did liked the winter banner? xD
well I hate winter, so i'm glad its (almost) summer again! :D
whoehoew :)

Jan. 18, 2008 | 10:29 PM bob responds:

I loved it too! But I also love winter. Summer can stay far, far away....


Jan. 18, 2008 | 9:28 PM WolfBlitz2 says:

what about Australia Day theme?
what about the ANZUS treaty
we support you, you support us


Jan. 19, 2008 | 12:48 AM slackerzac says:

Hello Bob


Jan. 19, 2008 | 1:25 PM Goat-Man says:

I made a post earlier saying that where I live in Canada, we just got about 5 inches of snow. Well. It basically hasn't stopped since then, and we are at about a foot and a half of new snow now.....

Jan. 20, 2008 | 2:09 PM bob responds:

I am extremely jealous. :(


Jan. 19, 2008 | 2:03 PM knuxrouge says:

Orange = contemporary

I like it better thank the winter. Can't wait to see some new ones.


Jan. 19, 2008 | 8:12 PM SoulMaster71 says:

Ah, well. I suppose I was getting used to blue, but orange works better with the Firefox theme I use.


Jan. 20, 2008 | 12:11 PM Ragnarokia says:

I personally liked the blue winter header, it was calm and kind, unlike the oranges one which seems more like a machine work shop, but it is the Newground classic banner so I understand.

It would be good if the next special layout you made was a nice calm one like the winter : )

Jan. 20, 2008 | 2:11 PM bob responds:

Most people merely found it depressing, which I can sort of understand. The next one will probably be red for Valentine's day, which I imagine will have the opposite effect of inspiring love and make people red with anger instead. We shall see...


Jan. 20, 2008 | 12:30 PM Cyberdevil says:

Everything looks so . . . orange. Haha, the original theme seems so bright after the past months of blueness.


Jan. 24, 2008 | 6:00 AM WritersBlock says:

The main part changed to orange again, but the ice sculptures remained. But I didn't bother clearing my chache because I liked it, even though the colour clash was quite bad. But now it's all gone. And good riddance! It's summer over here in Australia, and I've grown rather fond of the sun...


Feb. 10, 2008 | 10:42 PM bigjuicy says:

Aw man! The winter one was cool.....

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